In a recent posting about the tricks the middle-class plays to hide assets from Medicaid, I mentioned, offhand, that morally, of course, it is wrong to ask for government assistance, when in fact you have assets to pay for your long-term care.
And this is true, no matter how you slice it. And whether or not you or I do it, either. And let's face it, we all do things along this line, in our lives. Some of us are just up-front about it. Others play pious about it and make rationalizations (e.g., "everyone else is doing it!")
But government welfare (or any other incentive) does produce weird reactions in the market. The decision matrix for the average middle-class elderly American is this:
1. Save money, live frugally, pay for your own long-term care, until you are broke, then have the government go after your estate (your house, mostly) for the balance, once you are dead. Pay for those who didn't save, through your tax dollars. (least optimal outcome)
2. Give away your money during your lifetime to your kids, or squander it on yachts and cars and end up broke, and then have Medicaid pay for it all. Have other people's tax dollars pay for your care. (maximum optimal outcome for you).
3. Shield your assets through trusts or other mechanisms (life estates, etc), so you can transfer wealth to you children while still having medicaid pay for your long-term care. Other people's tax dollars pay for your care. (Not as optimal as #2, but better for you than #1).
As you can see, the idea of providing a safety net so that Seniors are not left to die by the side of the road, has unintended consequences. And the only way to avoid these unintended consequences is to intrude into your personal life.
For example, some of the strategies used to "shield" assets from Medicaid can backfire, as if, for example, you give away your house to your kids, you may be denied Medicaid coverage for up to five years. Or, they may go back and examine transactions and deem them to be sham transactions for the purpose of defrauding Medicare. And when you die, Medicare presents a bill to your estate.
Suddenly, the government's nose is "in your business" in a big way - when you go after these incentives.
And the distinction between "shielding" assets from Medicaid and "squandering" them is pretty difficult to discern. If I give away all my money to my kids (which, thankfully, I don't have) during my life, how is this different than giving them all my money the day before I go into an assisted living center? Medicaid says the former is OK, while the latter is a No-No. If you see the difference, illuminate me.
And the distinction between "shielding" assets from Medicaid and "squandering" them is pretty difficult to discern. If I give away all my money to my kids (which, thankfully, I don't have) during my life, how is this different than giving them all my money the day before I go into an assisted living center? Medicaid says the former is OK, while the latter is a No-No. If you see the difference, illuminate me.
Student loans and Pell Grants are another interesting area, where you have to plead poverty to get money. One student, aged 18 and living with his parents, is viewed in terms of his parent's income - even though he has reached the age of majority. Another student, age 22, living by himself and working, has a far different profile, even if his parents are billionaires. It is a rather arbitrary system.
(Note that if you, or a parent, were in the Iraq war or in Afghanistan, you may get the max Pell grant, period. Something to look into. $5500 doesn't buy back a lost limb, or a lost parent, though).
(Note that if you, or a parent, were in the Iraq war or in Afghanistan, you may get the max Pell grant, period. Something to look into. $5500 doesn't buy back a lost limb, or a lost parent, though).
As I noted in response to an earlier posting, I bought my first house at age 22 using a mortgage I obtained through the Farmer's Home Administration. Not FHA, but FmHA. It was originally a program designed to help farmers buy homes, but had morphed into a mortgage program for anyone in a "rural area" - whatever that means (another arbitrary criteria).
It was a program that subsidized interest payments and then "recaptured" the interest when you sold the house. When I sold my house, they recaptured all the subsidy from the profit of the sale. So, in terms of cost to the government, at least some of that was recaptured (although as guarantor of the note, perhaps not all costs, including their office overhead).
However, if the mortgage was paid off, there was no interest recapture. If I was clever, I suppose I could have rented the place out when I moved, used the rents to pay off the mortgage, and then pocketed the profits from the sale. I was not that clever. Others were, and used the system to buy homes, rent them out, and then pay them off at a reduced interest rate. Thanks, Uncle Sam, for the free house!
Of course, that would be illegal, but people did it, nevertheless. Just as shielding assets from Medicare could be deemed illegal, in some circumstances.
Every year, they would send me a form to fill out, to determine my subsidy level. At first I received a small subsidy, making my mortgage payment a staggering $218 a month. Then, as I made more money, the subsidy subsided and I paid the full amount - $240 a month (this was a long time ago!).
Every year, they would send me a form to fill out, to determine my subsidy level. At first I received a small subsidy, making my mortgage payment a staggering $218 a month. Then, as I made more money, the subsidy subsided and I paid the full amount - $240 a month (this was a long time ago!).
I decided to go back to school full-time and quit my job. As a result, my income shrank to nothing, and my mortgage went to $80 a month - all of which was principle. It did help me afford to go back to school, so maybe the program was a good thing. I don't know. All I know is, they offered an incentive, and I took it.
But when filling out my annual income form - to determine my annual subsidy, if any - they asked for information about all of my expenses. One line on the form was a howler:
"Recreation expenses (Cigarettes, Bowling, etc.).....$__.______"
This told me volumes about how they perceived their borrowers - as rednecks who chain-smoked and spent all their money on new bowling shoes.
I didn't smoke and rarely bowled. I put down "beer" in that category. Got a good subsidy that year, too!
"Recreation expenses (Cigarettes, Bowling, etc.).....$__.______"
This told me volumes about how they perceived their borrowers - as rednecks who chain-smoked and spent all their money on new bowling shoes.
I didn't smoke and rarely bowled. I put down "beer" in that category. Got a good subsidy that year, too!
Of course, when talking with the people at the FmHA office, I realized that they had standardized criteria for each category - and even suggested a number for "Cigarettes, Bowling, etc." for me to use. After all, most poor folks don't have a clue on what they spend on stuff like that.
But here, the government is really getting in your face, isn't it? Wanting to know your daily budget for bowling and cigarettes (and even suggesting a number to use!).
It is odd.
What would have happened if this subsidized mortgage was not available? I wonder sometimes. A number of outcomes are possible.
All three are possible. You could argue that the laws we have in place which make it so expensive and difficult to foreclose are one reason why banks shy away from any home mortgage that is not "guaranteed" by the Federal Government.1. Houses would be cheaper, as available cash would be lower, depressing prices.
2. More people would rent, and thus landlords would make more money, and people would be less empowered through home ownership.
3. Other borrowing options would materialize, as banks realized the risks of home mortgages was offset by the fact that they are secured by collateral, not the U.S. Government. And if foreclosure wasn't such a hassle in places like New York State, banks would be more willing to lend without government guarantees.
And this guarantee is one reason why they are so quick to want to foreclose these days. The sooner they boot out the borrower, the sooner they get their Gub-ment guarantee money.
Again, unintended consequences of government incentives.
The reason, at age 22, I had to use this FmHA mortgage was that no other mortgage was available to me. Because of "Good Intentions", New York State passed laws making it take up to three years to foreclose on a property. Banks were not necessarily eager to lend. And borrowers had broad rights in bankruptcy, to allow them to stay in a home even longer, and get out of paying the full amount.
So, getting mortgage was hard, as the government had decided that, to be "fair" to the little people, we needed to hobble banks. So banks stopped lending.
So to fix that, the government started mortgage programs and guaranteeing loans. They got their nose into both sides of the home mortgage business.
A mortgage on a home is a very safe and secured loan, even in the event housing prices decline. With sufficient down payment, any home is a 100% safe bet for a bank - in a normal Real Estate market. Few banks lend this way, anymore. Why bother? Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have your back - and you can loan to anyone, and not worry about it.
Or take student loans. We guarantee those, so kids have access to tens of thousands of dollars in loan money. So, colleges and universities raise tuition accordingly - until some university degrees literally makes no sense from a cost/benefit analysis. Great intentions (everyone has the opportunity to go to college!) but unintended consequences (kids graduate with a mortgage on their very lives!).
I am not sure I have an answer here, only that we need to think about where we are going with this kind of stuff. For many Americans, life is all about filling out government forms and waiting for subsidies - and figuring out how much you spend on "Bowling and Cigarettes."
And to some extent, this forces all of us to "play the system" for all we can get, rather than trying to create wealth and increase productivity. Why bother, when someone else will pay for it?
You end up chasing after tax deductions, tax credits, government subsidies, tax incentives, grants, and loans, rather than, well, doing what you'd rather be doing. How much of our behavior would change if we were incentivized to do nothing - but instead had to rely on our own incentives? I think that is the question the Libertarians are asking. And it is an interesting question.
Yes, all these government programs have "good intentions" at heart. But good intentions often go awry - as we are quickly finding out.


7 comments:
I've been seeing internet pop-up ads for years now that say "Obama wants to help lower your mortgage payment" through refinancing.
I thought it was a move to help the average Joe, but now I'm wondering if it was more about locking people into recourse loans before they figured out that strategic default would be the BEST option for their bottom line.
Those pop-up ads are just for raw-deal refinance shops, just as the "Obama wants Moms to go back to School!" are just ads for odious for-profit schools.
Never click on a pop-up ad, they are just trouble.
Most of them are for a scam called lowermybills.com which is just an utter come-on.
If you want to refinance a mortgage, I would suggest going through more legitimate channels and avoiding garbage and junk fees.
And no, "Obama" doesn't want you to do any of these things. And he doesn't have the "one weird trick of the tiny belly" either.
It's just a collection of high-index words designed to grab your attention.
See:
http://livingstingy.blogspot.com/2011/12/president-reduces-amount-homeowners-owe.html
and
http://livingstingy.blogspot.com/2011/07/why-are-most-internet-ads-for-rip-offs.html
and
http://livingstingy.blogspot.com/2010/12/what-is-lowermybills-what-are-data.html
You might want to read this one, too, about Pavlovian Response ads - which is all Internet ads are.
http://livingstingy.blogspot.com/2010/10/pavlovian-response.html
Yeah yeah with the pop up ads being evil. I totally agree.
But the real point of my comment was that even the average Joe who is not so bright but honest ALWAYS ends up getting screwed the most from government intervention (programs)
LIKE LOAN MODIFICATION
I'll bet Obama knew years ago that the housing market was going to really TANK and that a lot of homeowners (with non-recourse mortgages) would be able to just walk away. Walking away would be the best thing for their bottom dollar.
Cue the refinance programs that Washington churned out. All under the guise of "helping the struggling middle class."
(I know that not every initial mortgage starts as non-recourse, and I know that it varies from state to state as well)
But in GENERAL, most initial mortgages allow for walking away, and most refi's change the mortgage to recourse.
The part that irritates me the most is that the programs are touted as "relief" when in actuality they are just a shackle.
I feel like I am living in a Pop-Up-Ad right now. I followed the 'lower my bills' link above and then another link to the "Gut Instinct" article.
http://livingstingy.blogspot.com/2010/12/gut-instincts.html
All three articles helped confirm my suspicions about a potential business deal I am involved in. Too many of the warning flares you speak about are going off. "If it's too good to be true, it probably isn't true" and the like.
I'd like to thank-you as I will now certainly be taking a much more measured approach and requesting more evidence in the coming weeks. I think it will take a lot to convince me that this 'great deal' is actually that.
Jessica, I think you are missing the point. Like, ENTIRELY.
Just because an Internet ad SAYS "Obama Wants You to Refinance!" does NOT mean that Obama (or anyone else in the government) wants any such thing, or is endorsing the particular product or program, or that the program is even affiliated with some government refinancing scheme.
They aren't.
PLEASE PLEASE tell me that when you see these ads on the Internet, you don't really actually believe that President Barack Obama wants "Moms" to go back to school - to an odious "for profit" school where they will pay far too much in tuition, and get a crappy degree, and they pay for it all with a high-interest rate loan that is not even government guaranteed.
Because that simply isn't the case.
Just because an Internet ad says "Obama wants you to have a free hot meal" doesn't mean shit. They are just invoking his name (or using other high-index words) to capture your attention.
PLEASE don't tell me you thought that Obama was behind those Internet ads or whatever they are selling.
Please. People really aren't that gullible, are they?
For the RECORD, anything in an Internet ad is basically a lie. Period. And if they have dancing people or hairy men, or big-busted ladies selling car insurance, you can bet it is a raw deal.
No, as it turns out, the bearded homeless man they like to show doesn't want you to go back to school or refinance, or whatever.
Please! Stop being a true believer in what are complete and utter lies!
There is no scheme on the part of the President to get you to sign on to an odious deal over the internet. They are using his name, without permission.
Government officials, by law, cannot endorse commercial interests - refinancing companies or crappy for-profit schools, or loan consolidation, or whatever.
STOP being a "true believer" - the sooner you do this, the better off you are.
And STOP EXTERNALIZING your own problems. Blaming your own problems or even current events on "Obama" is just an utter cop-out and an example of WEAK THINKING.
And we don't tolerate weak thinking here....
SHAWN -
Thanks for your comments.
I have no idea what this "business deal" is you are talking about, but my gut reaction is to walk away.
Sounds like a scam - and there are plenty of them on the Internet. Like the Nigerian scams, where they ask you to handle some large sum of money for them. But always, they want a few thousand up front first.
Just about everything advertised on the Internet is a scam, so beware.
If there was free money floating around, people smarter than you and me would be snapping it up!
Walk away from "Something for Nothing" because it simply DOESN'T EXIST.
Read this posting for a list of 70 scams I am aware of:
http://livingstingy.blogspot.com/2009/11/scams-and-how-to-identify-them-updated.html
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